Eadgar's Ruse
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This quest has a quick guide. It briefly summarises the steps needed to complete the quest.
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| Eadgar's Ruse (#60) | ||||
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| Released | 5 October 2004 (Update) | |||
| Members | Yes | |||
| Quest series | Troll, #3 | |||
| Lead developer(s) | Chris S | |||
Eadgar's Ruse is a quest in the Troll series. It revolves around a certain item that needs to be obtained for the druids to continue their efforts to reclaim their stone circle.
Details
| Start point |  Talk to Sanfew on the 1st floor of the herbalist shop in Taverley. Show on map |
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| Official difficulty | Intermediate |
| Official length | Medium |
| Description | Sanfew requires a rare herb for the next part of the purifying ritual. Travel back to the Troll Stronghold to find this herb that the trolls use as an ingredient for their favourite dish. |
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God Wars Dungeon route to Trollheim:
Burthorpe route to Trollheim:
Fremennik route to Trollheim:
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| Enemies to defeat | None |
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Walkthrough
Starting off
- Note: If boosting the Herblore requirement, you will need to boost twice; once before starting the quest, and once before making the troll truth potion.
Speak to Sanfew on the top floor of the herb shop in Taverley. Select ask general questions, then ask if he has any more work for you. He will task you to find the secret of the herb goutweed, in order to perform the next part of the purifying ritual on the Druid's circle. Only the trolls in the Troll Stronghold know about goutweed, so Sanfew will suggest you speak to his friend, Eadgar, who lives near there at the top of Trollheim.
Getting to the Troll Stronghold
Items recommended: An Ardougne teletab, prayer potions or super restores, and one of a slayer Ring, a dramen staff, a Ghommal's hilt, a combat bracelet, or a games necklace
Note: Failing the obstacles, though uncommon, deals 1-5 damage, depending on your current HP.
Make your way to Trollheim using any of the routes below.
God Wars Dungeon route
The fastest and safest method to get to Trollheim is to teleport near the entrance of the God Wars Dungeon with one of Ghommal's hilts, rewarded from completing Combat Achievements. The hilt's 'Trollheim' option will place the player near the boulder/little crack, at which point they may run south to meet up with the thrower troll portion of the Burthorpe route.
Burthorpe route
If using a games necklace or a combat bracelet teleport to Burthorpe Games Room or the Warriors' Guild, respectively, and follow the mountain path out of the north-western corner of Burthorpe. Go south at the fork in the path to Tenzing's house. If you don't already have climbing boots, buy some here from Tenzing for 12 coins. Wear the climbing boots, and climb over the stile in his back yard, following the path north. At the next junction, climb over the rocks, follow the path, and go west at the next fork climbing over rocks as required. Head north to the Secret Entrance that will place you on the lower level of the Troll Stronghold.
Rellekka route
If using a Slayer ring or a Dramen staff, you must have climbing boots already as you won't be able to reach Tenzing from this path.
For the Slayer ring path, teleport to the Fremennik Slayer Dungeon or use the Fairy ring with (code AJR) to teleport outside the Dungeon entrance. Head north-east to a narrow passage and climb over some rocks (climbing boots required). Head north to the Secret Entrance that will place you on the lower level of the Troll Stronghold.
Cooking up a plan
- Note: If you didn't rescue Eadgar during the Troll Stronghold quest, you will need to do so before the following steps, or he will not appear in the cave. You may check the quest log to see whether it says "I've rescued Godric and Mad Eadgar". To rescue him, head to the Stronghold's prison on the bottom level, and pickpocket Berry the sleeping guard to get the key to his cell. If you are unable to pickpocket him, you may have already freed Eadgar (he will still appear in the cell even after being freed). Unlock the gate to free him.
From the Secret Entrance, head north along the corridor, past the jail cells and sleeping guards and take the stone staircase in the north-east corner. Head south and you'll see four Troll Cooks here – one of them will be called Burntmeat. Speak to him, and he will offer to tell you about goutweed in exchange for a human to cook in his stew.
- Tip: Consider doing the first section of the Troll Romance quest while in the area (the three trolls are just to the north-west of the kitchen).
Take the stairs next to Burntmeat and you will be on the upper level of the Stronghold. From here, follow the corridor north until you see the exit on the wall to the east, exit the Stronghold and run south-east to reach the base of Trollheim on the west side.
At the summit of Trollheim, enter the unmarked cave entrance on the southern side. Speak to Eadgar and the player will inform him of your quest and Burnmeat's request for a human stew. Eadgar has a plan to trick him, but first he needs a parrot.
The parrot
Items recommended: A Slayer ring or a Dramen staff for the fastest access to the troll prison, a games necklace, or a combat bracelet if not. A Falador Teleport Tablet if you need to return to Taverley for the dirty clothes
Head to the Ardougne Zoo, and talk to Parroty Pete near the northern wolf enclosure. Ask him when they added the parrot aviary, and then ask what they like to eat. He will tell you their favourite food is pineapple chunks, and that someone recently replaced their drinking water with vodka as a prank.
Use (don't eat) your pineapple chunks on the vodka to make alco-chunks, then use them on the aviary hatch on the west side of the parrot cage. You'll obtain a drunk parrot, with the player telling Parroty Pete that you will take it to the vet.
Do not drop the parrot or it will fly away. Once you have visited Eadgar with the parrot, you will be able to retrieve it from him if lost.
While in Ardougne, it's also a good idea to pick up your logs, tinderbox, grain, raw chicken, pestle and mortar, and unfinished ranarr potion from the bank.
Take the parrot to Eadgar. You need to make it look like a human, taste like a human, smell like a human, and talk like a human. (You must do these steps in order; however, you may hand in the items after hiding the parrot.)
- Go back to Eadgar using your route of choice, to talk about the rest of his plan before proceeding to the next step.
- If you pick a Thistle now, you can dry it on a fire on the way back to Eadgar. Scroll down to the truth serum section to learn how to acquire a troll thistle.
- Talk like a human - Go back to the Troll Stronghold, and head north through the corridor, then climb down the stone staircase, and unlock the prison door (no key required), finally climb down the second stone staircase to arrive at the prison cells. Go a bit further west and hide your parrot under the rack just north of the cells. Alternatively, use the fairy rings (code AJR) or a slayer ring to teleport to the Fremennik Slayer Dungeon and follow the north-east passage to the climbable rocks, then open the secret door to the north and you will be directly south of the jail cells. Then, head north until you get to the stone staircase, and then, head west and hide the parrot under the rack north of the cells.
- You will come back for the parrot later. Make sure that you check your Quest Log and talk to Eadgar before teleporting away.
- Look/Taste like a human - Teleport out of Trollheim and get your 10 grain, 2 logs, tinderbox, 5 raw chicken, pestle and mortar, and unfinished ranarr potion.
- Note for Ultimate Ironmen: You can make multiple trips with the items if you do not have the inventory space available to bring them in one trip.
- Smell like a human - Go to Taverley. You will see Tegid washing robes in the lake. Talk to him, and ask for a dirty robe. Then, threaten him with talking to Sanfew or chopping down trees to get one. After this, if needed, pick 10 grain just south of Tegid to bring to Eadgar. Take all items to Eadgar and he will make the human substitute for you.
- Consider doing the middle sections of the Troll Romance quest now to save time running back and forth.
Truth serum
Note: If you boosted your Herblore to start the quest, a level of 31 is needed to make the troll truth potion.
After you've done all of this, Eadgar will tell you that you need to make a troll truth potion so that Burntmeat won't lie to you about Goutweed. Look near the grass patches around Eadgar's hill until you find a tiny thistle growing in one of them and pick it for a Troll thistle. It may take you a while, but keep searching. If unable to find it, one may find it helpful to world hop and check the grass directly north or directly west of the cave. The Thistle's name is yellow when displayed at the top-left of the game window.
Once you've found the troll thistle, make a fire with your extra log and cook it to get a dried thistle. If you forgot to bring an extra log and/or tinderbox, there is a fire in the cave between the arena and Trollheim. Then, grind it with a pestle and mortar to make ground thistle. Finally, boost your Herblore level (if necessary) and add the ground thistle to your unfinished ranarr potion to make a troll potion. (If your character doesn't want to, check your quest journal to re-sync your progress).
Talk to Eadgar again. He will take the potion off of you and tell you that the parrot has had enough by now, so you can get it back from the troll jail. At this point it's recommended that you bank and grab some food for the next part of the quest. Go back to the prison cells in the Troll Stronghold, either through the back door to the jail via Fairy rings, code AJR or with the Slayer ring teleport (bring climbing boots). If you chose not to bank, head back to the stronghold then north through the corridor, then climb down the stone staircase, and unlock the prison door. Finally, climb down the second stone staircase to arrive at the prison cells, search the rack to retrieve the parrot, and then return to Eadgar.
Getting goutweed
After you give the parrot to Eadgar, he will give you the Fake man. Go back to the cooks in the stronghold by going south of the entrance and then down the stairs, and give the dummy to Burntmeat. He'll give you a piece of burnt meat as a reward (which you can discard as it serves no purpose in the quest). He'll also tell you that the Goutweed is kept in the storeroom and that you can find the key by searching the Kitchen Drawers.
- Consider doing the first section of the Troll Romance quest if not already previously started.
Open and then search the stone drawers in the south-eastern corner of the room to find the storeroom key, then go down the stairs just to the north. Down the hallway is a room with patrolling guards. If one of them sees you, it will throw a rock at you, dealing 0-6 damage, and you will be sent back to the entrance. Protection prayers do not block this damage.
The troll guards walk in cycles of 4, repeating. The easiest way to get a Goutweed is to click the crate with the Goutweed with run on as the two guards closest to the door are about to pass each other. Two of the 4 cycles should succeed using this method, and there is a 4 tile window where you can do this. If you get caught the cycle does not change like with Sorceress's Garden so you can keep trying. If done correctly this should result in a Goutweed every 2 runs. If you prefer you can just click the crate and try to brute force it, players may expect to obtain somewhere in the vicinity of one Goutweed per 5-10 runs using this method. Since you will be running a lot and being thrown out a lot, it is recommended to bring energy-restoring items.
If you wish to utilise the intended mechanics, the best way is to use the two most eastern guards as an indicator of when to move to the second safespot. To do this turn on your run and wait until one of the two guards rounds the northern corner of the boxes that they rotate around. As soon as this happens run to the second safespot. Note that the darker coloured troll patrolling the small section of boxes must also be avoided. Once in the second safespot simply run to the one of the safespots adjacent to the crate when the guard that comes north and closest to you turns west, and then click on the Goutweed crate.
The next way to do this is to use the safespots, which are dead ends surrounded by three crates. Time your movement and run to the first safespot, then wait for your chance to run to the second. You can use the position of the troll guards as an indication of when to move, as the placements of the guards will repeat after one or two cycles. Wait at the second safespot until you get the chance to run to the Goutweed crate and search it. Be careful not to simply click search Goutweed Crate as this will get you stuck on the sleeping troll instead of going up to the crate. Make sure you click on the spot adjacent to the crate, and then click search Goutweed crate. You'll be kicked out after you get one piece of Goutweed. Also, if you plan to do Dream Mentor or Dragon Slayer II at any point, it is recommended to get two extra Goutweed as it is a required item in those quests (Note: You can grab multiple Goutweed if you are quick enough to skip the dialogue and click on the crate).
Give the Goutweed to Sanfew back in Taverley by clicking on the "ask other question" option NOT the "talk about sanfew serum". This will complete the quest.
Congratulations, quest complete!
Rewards
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11,000 Herblore experience
- The ability to grow and steal Goutweed, which can be traded with Sanfew for herbs.
- 1 Burnt Meat
- The ability to use the Trollheim Teleport spell.
- The ability to use a Scroll of redirection to redirect a Teleport to house tablet to Trollheim.
Required for completing
Completion of Eadgar's Ruse is required for the following:
Transcript
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